Macro N Cheese

A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!

Macroeconomics for the People!


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Latest Episodes

Episode 9 -  The State of MMT Activism Around the World with Christian Reilly

Episode 9 – The State of MMT Activism Around the World with Christian Reilly

UK economic activist and musical comedian Christian Reilly joins Steve to talk about the 7 point MMT Manifesto and discuss ways to use economics to bridge the divide between conservatives, progressives and libertarians. Christian is co-host of the MMT Podcast.

Episode 8 -  Across the Pond MMT in the UK with Patricia Pino

Episode 8 – Across the Pond MMT in the UK with Patricia Pino

Patricia Pino, host of the UK’s MMT Podcast, untangles the confusing politics of Brexit and explains how the Eurozone furthers the neoliberal agenda. With MMT, the UK’s citizens can control their own destiny.

Episode 7 -  The World of MMT with Professors Stephanie Kelton & Bill Mitchell

Episode 7 – The World of MMT with Professors Stephanie Kelton & Bill Mitchell

Two titans of MMT, from the US & Australia, talk about its past & present. Despite some local differences, they agree that the overarching progressive agenda is the same everywhere, and is impossible without MMT.

Episode 6 - 12 Years with Dr. Steven Hail

Episode 6 – 12 Years with Dr. Steven Hail

Join special guest Dr Steven Hail and host Steven Grumbine tonight as they discuss the IPCC forecast. With only 12 years to address our carbon dioxide position, how does Modern Monetary Theory allow us to reverse our fate?