Macro N Cheese
A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!
Macroeconomics for the People!
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Latest Episodes

Episode 216 – Payments and Panopticism with Raúl Carrillo
Raúl Carrillo talks about his new white paper, "Seeing Through Money: Democracy, Data Governance, and the Digital Dollar." He and Steve discuss why and how banks should be removed from the plumbing of our public money system.

Episode 215 – The Misery of Austerity with David Fields
Political economist David Fields talks about austerity as a weapon in the war against the working class.

Episode 214 – Surfing the Wayback Machine: 2017 with Fadhel Kaboub
Fadhel Kaboub talks with Steve about the spectrum of monetary sovereignty, the structural debt traps of developing countries and the importance of a job guarantee.

Episode 213 – The Four Freedoms with Harvey J. Kaye
Historian Harvey J. Kaye talks to Steve about FDR's impact on labor unions, political movements, and the American public. He also responds to criticism of FDR from the left.