Macro N Cheese
A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!
Macroeconomics for the People!
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Latest Episodes

Episode 36 – The Role of Taxation in MMT with L. Randall Wray
The title of this episode could be Taxation 101. Economist L Randall Wray takes us through the history and many purposes, both actual and potential, of taxes.

Episode 35 – A Green New Tomorrow: A Survival Guide with Rohan Grey
In part 2 of our interview Rohan Grey talks about debt, public banking, the Green New Deal, and the job guarantee. He dispels some notions about robots and the UBI.

Episode 34 – The Legal Nature of Money and the History of the Federal Reserve with Rohan Grey
Rohan Grey takes us from the origins of the US dollar through the history of American banking. In the process we get a fascinating look at the class struggle that led to the development of the Fed and that persists to this day.

Episode 33 – Sustainability in a Modern Money Economy with Steven Hail & Phil Lawn
Dr. Philip Lawn and Dr. Steven Hail, 2 Australian modern monetary theorists, talk about growth, waste, money, and the environment.