Macro N Cheese

A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!

Macroeconomics for the People!


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Latest Episodes

Episode 28 - Overcoming the Orthodoxy with Scott Fullwiler

Episode 28 – Overcoming the Orthodoxy with Scott Fullwiler

We don’t worry about the deficit, we worry about the state of the economy, says Prof Scott Fullwiler of UMKC. If you’re interested in the history of MMT, you’ll want to hear this episode.

Episode 27 - Wage Stagnation, Inflation and the New Normal with Mark Blyth

Episode 27 – Wage Stagnation, Inflation and the New Normal with Mark Blyth

What is “smoke & mirrors & bullshit?” Does a Lannister always pay his debts? For answers, be sure to listen to our latest episode, where host Steve Grumbine goes toe to toe with Prof Mark Blyth. (Spoiler alert: they actually seem to enjoy each other's company)

Episode 26 - Genuine Hope: Completing the Roosevelt Revolution with Pavlina Tcherneva

Episode 26 – Genuine Hope: Completing the Roosevelt Revolution with Pavlina Tcherneva

Pavlina Tcherneva has been studying and writing about the Federal Job Guarantee since long before most of us had heard of the concept. In this episode she gives us all the ammunition we need to demand it.

Episode 25 -  Propaganda, Revelations, & Prosperity: The End of Neoliberalism with Scott Ferguson

Episode 25 – Propaganda, Revelations, & Prosperity: The End of Neoliberalism with Scott Ferguson

What makes us laugh, makes us cry, makes us horny? Steve’s guest Scott Ferguson tells us it’s neoliberalism, as it permeates our culture. In fact, it basically IS the culture. Yet he believes the current paradigm crisis is reason for hope. Tune in to find out why.