Macro N Cheese
A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!
Macroeconomics for the People!
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Latest Episodes

Episode 8 – Across the Pond MMT in the UK with Patricia Pino
Patricia Pino, host of the UK’s MMT Podcast, untangles the confusing politics of Brexit and explains how the Eurozone furthers the neoliberal agenda. With MMT, the UK’s citizens can control their own destiny.

Episode 7 – The World of MMT with Professors Stephanie Kelton & Bill Mitchell
Two titans of MMT, from the US & Australia, talk about its past & present. Despite some local differences, they agree that the overarching progressive agenda is the same everywhere, and is impossible without MMT.

Episode 6 – 12 Years with Dr. Steven Hail
Join special guest Dr Steven Hail and host Steven Grumbine tonight as they discuss the IPCC forecast. With only 12 years to address our carbon dioxide position, how does Modern Monetary Theory allow us to reverse our fate?

Episode 5 – Environmental Justice, Sustainability and Full Employment with Fadhel Kaboub
Fadhel Kaboub on the pressing crises of climate change, poverty, and unemployment. He describes the failings of the market approach, and uses the lens of MMT to change the narrative and put forth a comprehensive solution.