Macro N Cheese
A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!
Macroeconomics for the People!
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Latest Episodes

Episode 316 – Lions & Lambs with Thomas Fazi
Thomas Fazi on Trump 2.0 and the absurdity of an American empire that creates enemies out of thin air to justify its ongoing military & economic interventions.

Episode 315 – Confessions of an Economic Hitman: A Conversation with John Perkins
John Perkins, author of Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, once helped create a “death economy.” Now he believes humanity desperately needs a “life economy” to reverse the cycle.

Episode 314 – Chaos Fatigue with David & Dai
David & Dai of the Call Me Limbo podcast talk with Steve about class struggle, community, and the therapeutic value of humor.

Episode 313 – CHE with Clara Mattei
Clara Mattei talks about the upcoming inaugural conference of the Center for Heterodox Economics (CHE) in Tulsa, OK on Feb 6th to 8th, 2025.