Macro N Cheese

A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!

Macroeconomics for the People!


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Latest Episodes

Episode 148 - Participatory Economics with Michael Albert

Episode 148 – Participatory Economics with Michael Albert

Michael Albert talks to Steve about participatory economics (parecon), his book, “No Bosses” and his vision for a post-capitalist society with self-management, diversity, equity, solidarity, and sustainability.

Episode 147 - Mapping the Future of Humanity with Parag Khanna

Episode 147 – Mapping the Future of Humanity with Parag Khanna

Parag Khanna, global strategy advisor & author, talks about climate crises, supply chain disruption, uneven development, and migration.

Episode 146 - MMT Europe with Dirk Ehnts

Episode 146 – MMT Europe with Dirk Ehnts

Berlin economist Dirk Ehnts talks to Steve Grumbine about Modern Monetary Theory and European Macroeconomics, which coincidentally is the title of his book. If you’re interested in the political & economic relationship between the EU and its member states, and the similarities to that of the states of the US, you’ll want to listen to this episode.

Episode 145 - The Fall of Evergrande with Robert Hockett

Episode 145 – The Fall of Evergrande with Robert Hockett

Is Evergrande too big to fail? Robert Hockett talks to Steve about the past, present, and possible future of China’s strategy for economic development.