Macro N Cheese
A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!
Macroeconomics for the People!
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Latest Episodes

Episode 140 – What If We Lose Faith in the Dollar? with John Harvey
The Cowboy Economist, John Harvey, explains why it’s impossible to lose faith in the US dollar. He also dispels myths about inflation but says a little inflation can be a good thing. This is a great episode for non-economists.

Episode 139 – Critical Mass with John & Aaron Yarmuth
Steve is joined by Rep John Yarmuth, Chairman of the House Budget Committee, and his journalist son, Aaron. They talk about how “The Deficit Myth” and MMT changed their outlook on federal finance and opened up vast new possibilities for the future.

Episode 138 – The Lightbulb Moment with Malcolm Reavell
Malcolm Reavell of Modern Money Scotland talks about his journey into MMT activism and reveals how the UK’s financial control over his country is distorted into propaganda against Scottish independence.

Episode 137 – When Less is More with Jason Hickel
Growth is the alibi of capitalism. But economic growth is not a proxy for human well-being. Jason Hickel explains what economists have gotten wrong and shows us how much more we could accomplish by embracing degrowth.