Macro N Cheese

A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!

Macroeconomics for the People!


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Latest Episodes

Episode 105 - The Case for Scottish Independence with Kairin Van Sweeden

Episode 105 – The Case for Scottish Independence with Kairin Van Sweeden

Kairin Van Sweeden is Executive Director of Modern Money Scotland. She talks to Steve about MMT, the Scottish National Party and why she opposed Brexit.

Episode 104 - Focus on the Family with June Carbone

Episode 104 – Focus on the Family with June Carbone

June Carbone talks about her research on the family and its implications for economic and social policy. Spoiler alert: we need a job guarantee, free education and universal basic services.

Episode 103 - Anatomy of a Job Guarantee with Fadhel Kaboub

Episode 103 – Anatomy of a Job Guarantee with Fadhel Kaboub

Fadhel Kaboub & Steve Grumbine talk about unemployment and the job guarantee. They go into the meaning of “buffer stock,” the importance of the 4th estate, and why Silicon Valley is so hot for a UBI.

Episode 102 - The Global Scourge of Neoliberalism with Patricia Pino

Episode 102 – The Global Scourge of Neoliberalism with Patricia Pino

You’ll get a hit of nostalgia listening to Steve Grumbine and Patricia Pino in this 2017 interview about the Corbyn and the first Sanders campaign, Brexit, Greece, the history of the EU and, of course, MMT.