Macro N Cheese
A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!
Macroeconomics for the People!
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Latest Episodes

Episode 93 – The Public Banking Act with Rohan Grey
Rohan Grey helped craft Congresswomen Tlaib & AOC’s Public Banking Act. He’s here to explain how it works and why it’s so important for people, states and communities in crisis.

Episode 92 – Propaganda and the Vortex of Centrism with Esha Krishnaswamy
We take a historical materialist look at today’s politics with the host of historic.ly podcast after she consults a few philosophers from Locke to Lenin.

Episode 91 – Crisis Management with Warren Mosler
In part 2 of our interview with Warren Mosler, he talks about some disagreements within the MMT community regarding the job guarantee, swap-lines, and “mint the coin.” He gives his observations on lessons learned from the pandemic and how it can change the way we live and do business.

Episode 90 – The MMT Sequence with Warren Mosler
The OG of MMT takes us back to basics with the story of money itself. Where does it come from and how did it get into your pocket? He explains the true function of taxing, the “national debt,” the cause of unemployment, and how MMT saved the world.