Macro N Cheese

A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!

Macroeconomics for the People!


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Latest Episodes

Episode 90 - The MMT Sequence with Warren Mosler

Episode 90 – The MMT Sequence with Warren Mosler

The OG of MMT takes us back to basics with the story of money itself. Where does it come from and how did it get into your pocket? He explains the true function of taxing, the “national debt,” the cause of unemployment, and how MMT saved the world.

Episode 89 - Juxtapositions with Bill Mitchell

Episode 89 – Juxtapositions with Bill Mitchell

Aussie MMT economist Bill Mitchell talks Biden and Trump, climate crisis, US healthcare, UBI, and where the movement must go from here.

Episode 88 - Debt Deflation and the Neofeudal Empire with Michael Hudson

Episode 88 – Debt Deflation and the Neofeudal Empire with Michael Hudson

Renowned economist and author Michael Hudson joins us to discuss debt, the parasitic kleptocracy, and the remnants of feudalism. He and Steve look at the monolithic two-party system, where slogans like “hope and change” mean the death of hope and obstruction to change.

Episode 87 - A Just Transition Through Participatory Governance with Cindy Banyai

Episode 87 – A Just Transition Through Participatory Governance with Cindy Banyai

Who would you send to DC to go toe-to-toe with fiscal conservatives? What if she’s armed with #MMT and 20 years of experience in community development?