Macro N Cheese

A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!

Macroeconomics for the People!


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Episode 64 - Supply Chains and Pandemics with Steve Keen

Episode 64 – Supply Chains and Pandemics with Steve Keen

Our guest is one of the few economists to cogently predict the global financial crisis of '08. His prediction of coming climate disaster is playing out with the coronavirus. Comprehensive reorganization is needed. He lays it out for us.

Episode 63 - Revolutions and Reconciliations: The Bernie Sanders Movement with Ryan Grim

Episode 63 – Revolutions and Reconciliations: The Bernie Sanders Movement with Ryan Grim

From Bernie to Biden to COVID-19, Ryan Grim and Steve Grumbine have a lot to discuss about the past and the future of the left. Which one of them identifies with Arthur Fleck?

Episode 62 - Ground Zero with Lauren Ashcraft

Episode 62 – Ground Zero with Lauren Ashcraft

Lauren Ashcraft is a stand-up comic, Democratic Socialist, proponent of MMT, and now a candidate, ready to unseat an establishment Democrat in NY's 12th district.

Episode 61 - HBCU’s, Codeswitching and MMT with Matthew Robinson

Episode 61 – HBCU’s, Codeswitching and MMT with Matthew Robinson

Some economists seem to forget economics is a social science. Not today's guest. Meet the new generation of MMT.