Macro N Cheese

A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!

Macroeconomics for the People!


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Latest Episodes

Episode 94 - Political Sobriety with Rohan Grey

Episode 94 – Political Sobriety with Rohan Grey

Rohan Grey talks to Steve about the limits of electoral politics and the importance of reality-based analysis. The election is over. What now?

Episode 93 - The Public Banking Act with Rohan Grey

Episode 93 – The Public Banking Act with Rohan Grey

Rohan Grey helped craft Congresswomen Tlaib & AOC’s Public Banking Act. He’s here to explain how it works and why it’s so important for people, states and communities in crisis.

Episode 92 - Propaganda and the Vortex of Centrism with Esha Krishnaswamy

Episode 92 – Propaganda and the Vortex of Centrism with Esha Krishnaswamy

We take a historical materialist look at today’s politics with the host of historic.ly podcast after she consults a few philosophers from Locke to Lenin.

Episode 91 - Crisis Management with Warren Mosler

Episode 91 – Crisis Management with Warren Mosler

In part 2 of our interview with Warren Mosler, he talks about some disagreements within the MMT community regarding the job guarantee, swap-lines, and “mint the coin.” He gives his observations on lessons learned from the pandemic and how it can change the way we live and do business.