Macro N Cheese

A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!

Macroeconomics for the People!


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Latest Episodes

Episode 13 - Public Money & The Right to a Job with Raul Carrillo

Episode 13 – Public Money & The Right to a Job with Raul Carrillo

Our guest is Raul Carrillo, an anti-poverty & economic justice attorney, who shares startling facts about the history of the monetary system. He and Steve discuss strategies, like the FJG, for progressives to challenge the power structure.

Episode 12 -  Debunking Economic Illiteracy in the Progressive Movement with L. Randall Wray

Episode 12 – Debunking Economic Illiteracy in the Progressive Movement with L. Randall Wray

This interview from 2016 is even better today! Economist Randall Wray takes on the global financial crisis, the recovery of Wall St banks vs the devastation wrought on the American people. He goes on to explain the myths & reality of Social Security & Medicare.

Episode 11 -  An Overripe Economy with Alan Nasser

Episode 11 – An Overripe Economy with Alan Nasser

Steve’s guest Alan Nasser talks about his book Overripe Economy: American Capitalism and the Crisis of Democracy. He predicts a new economic crisis brought about by the disappearance of productive capital and the rise of the financialized economy.

Episode 10 - Game Theory with Warren Mosler

Episode 10 – Game Theory with Warren Mosler

Warren Mosler, the originator of MMT, charges that the labor market is an unfair game and the gap in distribution is a result of institutional structure. With insight & clarity, Mosler explains a range of progressive policy proposals that include a job guarantee, new rules for the Federal Reserve, and a change in corporate liability laws.