Macro N Cheese

A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!

Macroeconomics for the People!


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Latest Episodes

Episode 19 - The Compelling Case for Rent Control with Nathan Tankus

Episode 19 – The Compelling Case for Rent Control with Nathan Tankus

The rent is too damn high! Steve’s guest Nathan Tankus tells us why the faux rent control laws in some American cities are doing nothing to reduce ever-expanding housing insecurity & homelessness. Through the MMT lens, Nathan looks at the role of federal, state & municipal governments in exacerbating the problem, and shows us the way forward if we have the political will to take it on.

Episode 18 - The Job Guarantee is Core MMT with Ellis Winningham

Episode 18 – The Job Guarantee is Core MMT with Ellis Winningham

Anyone still tempted by the siren call of a UBI will be set right by Ellis Winningham & Steve Grumbine in this detailed look at everything from the history of work to the wider social benefits of a federal job guarantee. Winningham, MMT guru & educator, brings his acerbic wit & acute intellect to an episode you won’t want to miss.

Episode 17 - Leveling the Playing Field. Reparations & Baby Bonds with Darrick Hamilton

Episode 17 – Leveling the Playing Field. Reparations & Baby Bonds with Darrick Hamilton

Addressing racial & economic inequality requires bold, comprehensive programs. Darrick Hamilton lays out the principles and mechanics of some of the most vital policy proposals, reparations, baby bonds, and a federal job guarantee. Hamilton is professor of policy, economics & sociology at OSU.

Episode 16 - Bond Markets in a Modern Money Economy with Brian Romanchuk

Episode 16 – Bond Markets in a Modern Money Economy with Brian Romanchuk

Brian Romanchuk, founder of www.BondEconomics.com, tells us that MMT was the first macroeconomic theory that matched the realities of the market. Since he’s Canadian, he and Steve speak of the differences in governing structures and, of course, single payer health care.