Macro N Cheese

A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!

Macroeconomics for the People!


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Socialism Unmade: Confronting Five Centuries of Capital

Episode 368 – Socialism Unmade: Confronting Five Centuries of Capital with Ali Kadri

Steve talks with Dr. Ali Kadri, visiting Professor at Sun Yat-sen University. His academic work focuses on the political economy of development, imperialism, and the Arab world. He is the author of several important books, including The Unmaking of Arab Socialism. 

Episode 367 - MMT & Marxism: Finding Common Ground with Owen Bennett

Episode 367 – MMT & Marxism: Finding Common Ground with Owen Bennett

Australian labor historian and organizer Owen Bennett digs into the divide between MMT and the Marxist Left. He also discusses the left’s current dismissal of a full-employment policy, which is a break with historical precedent.

Episode 366 - Who Paid the Pipers of Western Marxism? with Gabriel Rockhill

Episode 366 – Who Paid the Pipers of Western Marxism? with Gabriel Rockhill

How the CIA and capitalist interests systematically funded a toothless Western Marxism to derail real, anti-imperialist revolution. Guest Gabriel Rockhill is the author of Who Paid the Pipers of Western Marxism?

Episode 365 - Funding White Supremacy with Robert B. Williams

Episode 365 – Funding White Supremacy with Robert B. Williams

Economist Robert B. Williams talks about his 2025 book Funding White Supremacy: Federal Wealth Policies and the Modern Racial Wealth Gap. 

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