Macro N Cheese

A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!

Macroeconomics for the People!


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Episode 399 – Resistance and Resilience with Pieter de Beer

Episode 399 – Resistance and Resilience with Pieter de Beer

If electoral politics isn’t the plan, what does building an alternative actually look like? An anarchist and a Marxist-Leninist get together to exchange ideas.

Episode 398 – The National Debt & the $40 Trillion Nothingburger with James Fauntleroy

Episode 398 – The National Debt & the $40 Trillion Nothingburger with James Fauntleroy

Steve joins James Fauntleroy on The Jaybefaunt Show to explain why the $40 trillion national debt is a bogus scare-tactic. The “broke government” myth serves capital. They agree that liberation will come through organizing and dual power, not the ballot box.

Episode 397 - Sectoral Balances: Predicting the Next Crises with Jim Byrne

Episode 397 – Sectoral Balances: Predicting the Next Crises with Jim Byrne

Jim Byrne, of MMT101.org podcast, joins Steve to break down sectoral balances, the simple accounting identity that exposed the conditions leading to the 2008 crash. They look at what is revealed and concealed about who bears the cost when governments carry a budget surplus.

Episode 396 - Recession by Design: Who Pays for the Business Cycle? with John Harvey

Episode 396 – Recession by Design: Who Pays for the Business Cycle? with John T. Harvey

Drawing on his book US Business Cycles 1954–2020, John T. Harvey addresses a central contradiction: we have the money, resources, and economic tools to provide full employment and meet society’s needs, yet the structure of capitalism stands in the way.

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