Macro N Cheese
A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!
Macroeconomics for the People!
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Latest Episodes

Episode 166 – Investing in Sustainability with Paul Herman
R. Paul Herman talks about crafting innovative ways to address the crises of our times using a multisector approach – especially government, NGOs, and private. Herman is the founder and CEO of HIP Investor.

Episode 165 – Finding Mosler with Philip Armstrong
Steve’s guest is Phil Armstrong of Gower Initiative for Modern Money Studies (GIMMS), who has recently published a book of interviews: Can Heterodox Economics Make a Difference? Conversations with Key Thinkers.

Episode 164 – Bullshit Jobs? with Erik Dean
Erik Dean talks with host Steve Grumbine about the role of bullshit jobs within money manager capitalism.

Episode 163 – The Intersection of Marx and MMT with 1Dime
Steve’s guest is 1Dime, who talks about looking at the world through the double lens of Marxism and Modern Monetary Theory to bring reality into sharp focus.