Macro N Cheese

A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!

Macroeconomics for the People!


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Latest Episodes

Episode 128 - How We Fund Policy Matters with L. Randall Wray

Episode 128 – How We Fund Policy Matters with L. Randall Wray

Rep. Yarmuth came out of the closet as an MMTer and Steve’s guest, L Randall Wray, has background intel. Wray also talks about the interconnected pandemics of racism, inequality, climate catastrophe, and more.

Episode 127 - The Rent's Too Damned High with Cory Doctorow

Episode 127 – The Rent’s Too Damned High with Cory Doctorow

Cory Doctorow, a science fiction novelist and MMTer, talks about rents and home ownership, and how the loss of unions has affected more than just wages. Does technology make it possible to have an international labor movement?

Episode 126 - An MMT Perspective: Interest Rates and Inflation with Warren Mosler

Episode 126 – An MMT Perspective: Interest Rates and Inflation with Warren Mosler

Warren Mosler joins Steve to look at economic (and environmental) lessons from the pandemic. They talk about the reality and the myths of inflation and the absurd public policy trying to prevent it. They trace MMT’s path from Bernie Sanders to Stephanie Kelton to Representative Yarmuth on C-Span.

Episode 125 - Degrowth with Lorenz Keyszer

Episode 125 – Degrowth with Lorenz Keyszer

Lorenz Keyszer reminds us we can secure livelihoods and access to the goods and services people need, regardless of GDP, if we change how our economy functions and choose different things to prioritize.