Macro N Cheese

A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!

Macroeconomics for the People!


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Latest Episodes

Episode 124 - The Race to the Bottom with Fadhel Kaboub and Bill Black

Episode 124 – The Race to the Bottom with Fadhel Kaboub and Bill Black

Econ heroes Bill Black & Fadhel Kaboub show why competition between the states makes a state-based program like M4A an impossible dream for all but a few. A perfect episode for those new to MMT.

Episode 123 - Defining the World of Crypto and the Digital Commons with Rohan Grey

Episode 123 – Defining the World of Crypto and the Digital Commons with Rohan Grey

Rohan Grey joins Steve to talk about history, privacy, the law, political economy, and MMT.

Episode 122 - The Case Against a Universal Basic Income with Bill Mitchell

Episode 122 – The Case Against a Universal Basic Income with Bill Mitchell

Aussie economist Bill Mitchell says UBI is a surrender to neoliberalism’s claim that government is powerless in the face of unemployment. As if it were a natural disaster.

Episode 121 - What Marx Got Wrong with Steve Keen

Episode 121 – What Marx Got Wrong with Steve Keen

Steve Keen believes Marx contradicted himself. Maybe socialist revolution isn’t inevitable after all? You don’t need to have studied the labor theory of value to listen to this episode, but you may want to after you’ve heard it.