Macro N Cheese
A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!
Macroeconomics for the People!
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Latest Episodes

Episode 162 – War and Peace: Ukraine and the Neoliberal Project with Alexander Valchyshen
Alexander Valchyshen talks with Steve Grumbine about the economics and history of Ukraine.

Episode 161 – Challenging Critiques of MMT with Yeva Nersisyan
Yeva Nersisyan talks with Steve Grumbine about MMT in the news, and why it’s being scapegoated by people who don’t have a clue. Covid stimulus is not “MMT policy.”

Episode 160 – Agitating Out of Poverty with Ruchira Sen
Dr. Ruchira Sen talks about the oppression of women in India – their unpaid labor, arranged marriages, and living under threat of violence.

Episode 159 – Examining China with an MMT Lens with Yan Liang
Yan Liang talks MMT, trade, development, and human rights in China.