Macro N Cheese

A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!

Macroeconomics for the People!


Latest Episodes

Episode 4 -  Neoliberalism with Ellis Winningham

Episode 4 – Neoliberalism with Ellis Winningham

Ellis and Steve agree with MMT experts! We can stop talking about "reducing the deficit" or U.S.A's need for "government surpluses". Time to fight wage suppression. NO MORE LIES! Federal taxes DON'T fund spending.

Episode 3 - Metabolic Optimism with Professor Robert Hockett

Episode 3 – Metabolic Optimism with Professor Robert Hockett

Professor Robert Hockett of Cornell Law and a Fellow of the Century Foundation, talks about how Pelosi's PayGo is dangerously misleading. Steve and Hockett discuss the implications of a Green New Deal. Hockett writes about law, justice, money, finance, and economics for Forbes and many other publications.

Episode 2 -  Pavlina Tcherneva on MMT, Feminism, Intersectionality & Momentum

Episode 2 – Pavlina Tcherneva on MMT, Feminism, Intersectionality & Momentum

Pavlina Tcherneva joins Steve to talk about the prominent role of women in developing and promoting Modern Monetary Theory. As one of the leading architects of the Federal Job Guarantee, she explains how redefining work will liberate families as well as the marginalized.

Episode 1 - Putting the T in MMT with Professor Bill Mitchell

Episode 1 – Putting the T in MMT with Professor Bill Mitchell

Steve interviews Bill Mitchell on the controversial concept of “Theory” in Modern Monetary Theory, demonstrating that even the most complicated economic concepts can be made accessible to the layperson.

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