Macro N Cheese

A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!

Macroeconomics for the People!


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Latest Episodes

Episode 15 -  MMT Theory of Exchange Rate with Ivan Invernizzi

Episode 15 – MMT Theory of Exchange Rate with Ivan Invernizzi

Is a dollar worth more in DC or NYC than in Idaho? Yes, it is. Guest Ivan Invernizzi, of ReteMMT Italia, focuses the MMT lens on exchange rates, showing how this is yet another way that workers get screwed, simply because of their employer’s distance from the central bank.

Episode 14 -  Breaking The Chains of Oppression with Prof. Sandy Darity

Episode 14 – Breaking The Chains of Oppression with Prof. Sandy Darity

William “Sandy” Darity, economist from Duke University, explains why America needs a federal job guarantee and not a universal basic income. The FJG will address inequality, build an inclusive, stable economy, and provide socially useful services, improving the quality of life for all communities.

Episode 13 - Public Money & The Right to a Job with Raul Carrillo

Episode 13 – Public Money & The Right to a Job with Raul Carrillo

Our guest is Raul Carrillo, an anti-poverty & economic justice attorney, who shares startling facts about the history of the monetary system. He and Steve discuss strategies, like the FJG, for progressives to challenge the power structure.

Episode 12 -  Debunking Economic Illiteracy in the Progressive Movement with L. Randall Wray

Episode 12 – Debunking Economic Illiteracy in the Progressive Movement with L. Randall Wray

This interview from 2016 is even better today! Economist Randall Wray takes on the global financial crisis, the recovery of Wall St banks vs the devastation wrought on the American people. He goes on to explain the myths & reality of Social Security & Medicare.