Macro N Cheese
A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!
Macroeconomics for the People!
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Latest Episodes

Episode 172 – Pakistan’s False Dawn and the Beginning of History with Aqdas Afzal
Aqdas Afzal talks to host Steve Grumbine about Pakistan’s struggles from the Raj to the IMF.

Episode 171 – A Macro View of Iceland with Ólafur Margeirsson
An MMT mantra: If the problem is money, it’s not a problem. If the problem is inflation, it is a problem. Olafur Margeirsson shows us what a difference a little bit of monetary sovereignty makes to a country’s economic possibilities. (Smart choices are still required.)

Episode 170 – Mao: The Cultural Revolution with Carl Zha
Part 3 of the series on Mao and the Chinese Revolution, with guest Carl Zha, host of Silk and Steel podcast. The episode looks at Tibet, the Cultural Revolution, and Mao’s complicated legacy.

Episode 169 – Mao: The Civil War and The Great Leap Forward with Carl Zha
Carl Zha, host of Silk and Steel podcast, continues with part 2 of the story of Mao and the Chinese Revolution. This week’s episode looks at Civil War in China, the ultimate success of the Communist forces, and the Great Leap Forward.