Macro N Cheese
A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!
Macroeconomics for the People!
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Latest Episodes

Episode 206 – Spelunking the Deep State with John Kiriakou
John Kiriakou, co-host of Political Misfits, talks about the CIA from his unique vantage point. He’s a former employee who served time in prison for blowing the whistle on their use of torture.

Episode 205 – RP Live with Brett Scott
Brett Scott talks about his book, Cloudmoney, and leads a webinar on the war for our wallets. He calls on leftists to engage in the discussion pitting crypto against cash.

Episode 204 – FTX and the Fall of Cryptocurrency with Robert Hockett
The collapse of FTX and other crypto schemes follows the same pattern as the subprime mortgage and junk bond bubbles of recent decades. Robert Hockett and Steve Grumbine explore the history of US paper currency, blockchain, CBDCs, and fraud & corruption in the financial system.

Episode 203 – Japan: A Case Study in MMT with Bill Mitchell
Bill Mitchell tells us how Japan’s fiscal and monetary policies demonstrate the dishonesty of mainstream economic theory. Unemployment is not the cure for inflation. Government deficits can bring an economy back from the brink of recession. A central bank’s interest rates don’t need to serve the 1%. Spending for the public purpose can contribute to social well-being. MMT points the way.